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Monday, March 27, 2006

Norgs — news organizations

Check this out. I'd like to get a similar conversation going here in Northeast Ohio. Let's move beyond the vitriolic, tired debate between MSM and new media. Who's game for similar conversation in Northeast Ohio?

Scroll down to check out the white board notes with feedback on questions such as:

Who is a journalist?

What is journalism?

What are we trying to grow?

Who are we trying to serve?

What does democracy require?

What is an act of journalism?

Who runs the operation?

What is the culture of the newsroom?

How does it make money?

What do we do now?

Here's Jarvis' take:

I say this is the day that the war ends. This isn’t journalism against bloggers anymore. It never was, really. This is journalists and bloggers together in favor of news.

It was dubbed The NORG Unconference because:

This is an unconference — no speakers, the agenda in the hands of everyone — because, (Philadelphia Daily News Editor Wendy) Warren says, “Whoever’s in the conversation is the right person to have in the conversation.”

UPDATE: Here's the NORG site.


Jill said...

Excellent posts today, Wendy.

We can make it happen.

Wendy Hoke said...

That was fast, Jill. I just finished getting all the updates posted. :) I've printed off the whiteboard notes for reference. But I think this is just the kind of conversation we need to have in NEO.

Jeff Hess said...

Shalom Wendy,

I liked the coining of the word Norg too.

I've been following Jarvis' post on this for the last couple of days.

Did you listen to the speech by the editor of the Guardian?



P. said...

I think a journalist is anyone who regularly writes, podcasts, makes pictures or what have you, to record -- for publication in some way, to an audience of strangers -- an original account of current events, or at least issues of general interest, that is meant to be thought of as true.

The medium really doesn't matter, though it may infuence the product. But doing it regularly counts, doing it in "public" counts, doing original reporting counts, currency counts and truth, slippery as it is, counts a lot.

Meet the Bloggers is certainly classic journalism. A lot of blogging is commentary; some is also journalism, depending on the amount of original fact-gathering is involved.

Thoughtful writers like you, Wendy, deserve attention regardless of what you call it.

That said, I want to raise an eyebrow at Jeff Jarvis becoming an enthusiast of norg: I gave up on his blog last year because he seemed always to be beating the same gong: that the "old media" are doomed. When he was an Advance vice president, he must have been part of the decisions to have Advance Web sites keep their affiliated newspapers at arm's length, retarding for years the process of reimagining old-media content to take advantage of the new form and possibly helping to doom them. Next time you read a piece of shovelware from a Newhouse paper, think of him.

Wendy Hoke said...

P., thank you for your kind and thoughtful comments here. I admit that I've not been a Jarvis fan, particularly since seeing him speak at the SPJ convention in NYC in 2004. He has a level of shrieking that is truly obnoxious. It was quite surprising to me to see him involved in something constructive. And I agree that the Advance approach to Web sites has been sorely lacking.

But I think we can jump-start a conversation here that would prove there are people outside of the mainstream who are producing great writing. And if we can get old media to recognize the value of working together, this could transform how we consume news regardless of how it's packaged. Thanks for the support.

Jeff, I've not seen the Guardian speech, but will look it up today. Thanks for stopping by.